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	<title>Comments on: Joseph Smith and Abraham Lincoln</title>
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		<title>By: Critique of Abraham Lincoln; Or, &#8220;Why Abraham Lincoln Might Still Be in Hell&#8221; by grego &#171; Book of Mormon Notes&#8211;How deep can you dig?</title>
		<link>http://richardkmiller.com/mormonism/joseph-smith-and-abraham-lincoln/comment-page-1/#comment-51038</link>
		<dc:creator>Critique of Abraham Lincoln; Or, &#8220;Why Abraham Lincoln Might Still Be in Hell&#8221; by grego &#171; Book of Mormon Notes&#8211;How deep can you dig?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 05:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Here is a prime example of what I&#8217;m talking about, LDS being taught wrong things and being blinded: http://richardkmiller.com/mormonism/joseph-smith-and-abraham-lincoln/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Here is a prime example of what I&#8217;m talking about, LDS being taught wrong things and being blinded: <a href="http://richardkmiller.com/mormonism/joseph-smith-and-abraham-lincoln/" rel="nofollow">http://richardkmiller.com/mormonism/joseph-smith-and-abraham-lincoln/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://richardkmiller.com/mormonism/joseph-smith-and-abraham-lincoln/comment-page-1/#comment-50326</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt: It looks like they moved the audio recording. I&#039;ve fixed the link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt: It looks like they moved the audio recording. I&#8217;ve fixed the link.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Warren</title>
		<link>http://richardkmiller.com/mormonism/joseph-smith-and-abraham-lincoln/comment-page-1/#comment-50288</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 06:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, great blog.  The link to the Bushman talk on Joseph Smith and Abe Lincoln isn&#039;t working.  Is there another way I can get to it?
                -Matt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, great blog.  The link to the Bushman talk on Joseph Smith and Abe Lincoln isn&#8217;t working.  Is there another way I can get to it?<br />
                -Matt</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Griffith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Griffith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lincoln was no friend of the Latter-day Saints.  He said nothing when the Saints were being persecuted in Illinois.  Before the war, he said the Saints were &quot;probably&quot; in rebellion and added that they needed to be &quot;coerced&quot; somehow. kHe also condemned polygamy as &quot;a relic of barbarism.&quot;  As president, he signed the first anti-polygamy bill and appointed anti-Mormons as territorial officials, ignoring Church requests that locals be appointed.  

Privately, Brigham Young was very critical of Lincoln.  We must remember that there was a federal army garrison stationed in Utah, and many hostile federal appointees, who all kept a close ear out for anything that sounded the least bit &quot;unpatriotic,&quot; so the Saints were very guarded in their public comments.  Readers here may be interested in my article &quot;Abraham Lincoln, the Mormons, and the Civil War&quot; at:

http://ourworld.cs.com/mikegriffith1/lincolnandlds.htm

Mike Griffith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lincoln was no friend of the Latter-day Saints.  He said nothing when the Saints were being persecuted in Illinois.  Before the war, he said the Saints were &#8220;probably&#8221; in rebellion and added that they needed to be &#8220;coerced&#8221; somehow. kHe also condemned polygamy as &#8220;a relic of barbarism.&#8221;  As president, he signed the first anti-polygamy bill and appointed anti-Mormons as territorial officials, ignoring Church requests that locals be appointed.  </p>
<p>Privately, Brigham Young was very critical of Lincoln.  We must remember that there was a federal army garrison stationed in Utah, and many hostile federal appointees, who all kept a close ear out for anything that sounded the least bit &#8220;unpatriotic,&#8221; so the Saints were very guarded in their public comments.  Readers here may be interested in my article &#8220;Abraham Lincoln, the Mormons, and the Civil War&#8221; at:</p>
<p><a href="http://ourworld.cs.com/mikegriffith1/lincolnandlds.htm" rel="nofollow">http://ourworld.cs.com/mikegriffith1/lincolnandlds.htm</a></p>
<p>Mike Griffith</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://richardkmiller.com/mormonism/joseph-smith-and-abraham-lincoln/comment-page-1/#comment-22994</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am more interested in how Lincoln acted in his role as a state representative while the Mormon&#039;s were being persecuted. The Governor certainly was ineffective in protecting the Saints as I read it in Bushman&#039;s book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am more interested in how Lincoln acted in his role as a state representative while the Mormon&#8217;s were being persecuted. The Governor certainly was ineffective in protecting the Saints as I read it in Bushman&#8217;s book.</p>
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		<title>By: A.C. KORITZ</title>
		<link>http://richardkmiller.com/mormonism/joseph-smith-and-abraham-lincoln/comment-page-1/#comment-16958</link>
		<dc:creator>A.C. KORITZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 21:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t Abe Lincoln respond to an anti-Mormon critic to the effect that the Mormons were like a green tree stump, and to just &quot;plow around them.&quot;?  I can&#039;t find the source.  Any ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t Abe Lincoln respond to an anti-Mormon critic to the effect that the Mormons were like a green tree stump, and to just &#8220;plow around them.&#8221;?  I can&#8217;t find the source.  Any ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://richardkmiller.com/mormonism/joseph-smith-and-abraham-lincoln/comment-page-1/#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 04:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rachel: My comments here are true to the content and tone of Mr. Bushman&#039;s talk; I was paraphrasing more than writing.  But this wasn&#039;t intended to disparage Lincoln at all, nor do I think that was Bushman&#039;s intent.  I agree that Lincoln was an incredible leader and lived an inspired and inspiring life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel: My comments here are true to the content and tone of Mr. Bushman&#8217;s talk; I was paraphrasing more than writing.  But this wasn&#8217;t intended to disparage Lincoln at all, nor do I think that was Bushman&#8217;s intent.  I agree that Lincoln was an incredible leader and lived an inspired and inspiring life.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 04:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We do not need to belittle Abraham Lincoln to make Joseph Smith great. Both were inspired of God. I didn&#039;t care for how this was written.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do not need to belittle Abraham Lincoln to make Joseph Smith great. Both were inspired of God. I didn&#8217;t care for how this was written.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard K Miller dot coooooooooom &#187; Informal discussion societies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard K Miller dot coooooooooom &#187; Informal discussion societies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I just finished listening to an excellent lecture by Richard Bushman on Joseph Smith and Abraham Lincoln, and he briefly mentioned Ben Franklin&#8217;s Junto group: Both Lincoln and Joseph explored &#8230; ideas in informal discussion societies modeled roughly after Benjamin Franklin&#8217;s Junto a century earlier. All around the country, ambitious young men gathered to read and talk with the aim of improving themselves. [...]</description>
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